What STEP 4 and SURMOUNT-4 actually established
A plateau at an intermediate dose and a plateau at the maximum dose look identical from the outside and mean different things.
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The glucagon arm raises energy expenditure and also raises hepatic glucose output. Balancing those is the whole engineering problem.
The words matter here, and the coverage routinely gets them wrong. A dual agonist is a single molecule with meaningful activity at two receptors. A co-formulation is two molecules delivered together. A combination therapy is two products prescribed alongside each other. These have different pharmacokinetics, different dose-ranging problems, different regulatory pathways and different failure modes, and using the terms interchangeably makes the literature unreadable.
Three quantities are routinely conflated in discussions of this class. Affinity is how tightly a ligand binds, usually reported as a dissociation constant. Potency is the concentration producing half-maximal response, reported as an EC50. Efficacy is the maximal response achievable, reported relative to a reference agonist. A molecule can be more potent and less efficacious than another, and a molecule can bind a second receptor with high affinity and produce almost no response there.
Selectivity is the ratio of activities across receptors, and it is where the current pipeline diverges most sharply. Reported GIP-to-GLP-1 activity ratios for dual agonists vary by more than an order of magnitude between molecules; glucagon receptor arms in triple agonists vary similarly. Those ratios are properties of the sequence and they are not adjustable by dose. Two molecules with different ratios are different drugs at every dose, which is the reason head-to-head trials cannot be replaced by cross-trial comparison.1
At steady state on a seven-day half-life the peak-to-trough variation across the dosing interval is modest — on the order of tens of per cent rather than folds. Moving the injection by twelve hours, or from one day of the week to another, does not meaningfully change total exposure. It does change when the highest concentrations occur relative to a person’s week.
Time to maximum concentration after subcutaneous injection is on the order of one to three days for the long-acting agonists, so an injection on Friday evening produces its concentration peak somewhere in the weekend. Whether that is desirable is a question about a person’s schedule, not about pharmacology. What the pharmacology does say is that consistency of interval matters more than consistency of hour, because the interval is what determines the accumulation ratio.
A drug is not a dose. It is a pattern of signalling across tissues, and the pattern is a property of the sequence.
On why cross-molecule comparison needs head-to-head dataThree explanations are current for the additional effect of GIP receptor agonism, and they are not mutually exclusive. The first is that GIP receptor activation in adipose tissue improves lipid handling and insulin sensitivity, permitting greater fat mobilisation at a given level of energy deficit. The second is central: GIP receptors are expressed in hypothalamic and hindbrain regions, and GIP receptor agonism may reduce nausea signalling, allowing higher GLP-1 receptor engagement to be tolerated. The third is that chronic GIP receptor agonism produces functional desensitisation that resembles antagonism, which would reconcile the apparently contradictory finding that both GIP agonists and GIP antagonists reduce body weight in preclinical work.
The second explanation is the most consequential if true, because it would mean the dual agonist’s advantage is partly a tolerability advantage rather than a distinct metabolic one — a difference that matters for how the drugs should be compared.2
| Half-life | Accumulation ratio | 90% of steady state | 97% of steady state |
|---|---|---|---|
| 3 days | 1.35 | 10 days | 15 days |
| 5 days | 1.66 | 17 days | 25 days |
| 7 days | 2.00 | 23 days | 35 days |
| 9 days | 2.33 | 30 days | 45 days |
| Calculated for first-order elimination and a 7-day dosing interval. Illustrative; not a dosing instruction. | |||
Glucagon receptor agonism increases resting energy expenditure and promotes hepatic fat oxidation. It also stimulates hepatic glucose production, which in a person with impaired glycaemic control is the opposite of what is wanted. A triple agonist therefore has to be balanced so that the GLP-1 arm’s insulinotropic and glucose-lowering effects exceed the glucagon arm’s glucose-raising effect at every therapeutic concentration.
That balance is set by the sequence, not the dose, which is why glucagon-containing agonists have historically failed in development for glycaemic reasons rather than efficacy ones, and why the ratio is the number to look for in any new molecule’s pharmacology package. Reported phase 2 glycaemic data for the current triple agonists suggests the balance has been achieved; the phase 3 programmes will establish whether it holds across a broader population.3
Cagrilintide is not a GLP-1 receptor agonist and it is repeatedly described as one. It is a long-acting analogue of amylin, a 37-residue peptide co-secreted with insulin from the beta cell, acting at calcitonin and amylin receptor complexes. Its effects — slowed gastric emptying, reduced food intake, satiety signalling through the area postrema — overlap substantially with GLP-1 receptor agonism, which is why the confusion persists and why the co-formulation with semaglutide is pharmacologically interesting rather than redundant.
Two mechanisms converging on the same behavioural endpoint through different receptors is the argument for combining them: the ceiling of each is set by its own receptor-mediated adverse effects, and two half-doses at different receptors may sit below both ceilings. Whether that argument survives phase 3 is an empirical question.
An orally bioavailable small molecule that activates a class B GPCR was, for a long time, considered close to impossible. The current crop of non-peptide GLP-1 receptor agonists achieves it by binding a site that overlaps only partially with the peptide binding pocket, stabilising an active conformation without the two-domain capture mechanism.
Pharmacologically this matters for three reasons. Absorption does not depend on a permeation enhancer, so bioavailability is far less variable and far less dependent on fasting state than oral semaglutide’s. Elimination is hepatic rather than largely renal and proteolytic, which changes the interaction profile. And potency at the receptor is achieved without a fatty-acid albumin depot, so the concentration-time profile looks like a conventional small molecule rather than a peptide. None of this predicts efficacy; all of it predicts a different practical drug.
An argument could be made that receptor pharmacology is a specialist concern and that readers need practical guidance instead. The Journal’s position is the opposite, for a specific reason: almost every piece of bad advice circulating about this drug class is a mechanistic error with a practical conclusion attached.
Escalating on a fixed calendar regardless of symptoms is an error about accumulation kinetics. Splitting a weekly dose into daily fractions to reduce side effects is an error about half-life and steady state. Assuming a molecule with GIP activity is simply a stronger version of one without is an error about selectivity. Expecting weight to keep falling indefinitely is an error about energy balance. In each case the practical advice is wrong because the mechanism was misunderstood, and in each case understanding the mechanism is not much harder than memorising the rule.
Almost every piece of bad advice about this drug class is a mechanistic error with a practical conclusion attached.
Marguerite Vasseur, Deputy Editor, ScienceEverything above is drawn from the peer-reviewed pharmacology and clinical literature and from regulatory assessment reports, which are more informative than the papers on questions of dose selection and exposure. Where a claim rests on in-vitro work in transfected cells, this piece says so, because the translation of such work to human physiology has failed often enough in this field to deserve a standing caveat.
Where the Journal reports a trial number it states the estimand behind it, because the treatment-policy and trial-product estimands differ by two to three percentage points in the obesity programmes and the difference is routinely lost in secondary coverage. Nothing here is a recommendation, and none of the compounds discussed as research chemicals are approved for human use.
Agonist: a ligand that binds a receptor and produces a response. Full agonist: one producing the maximal response the system permits. Partial agonist: one producing less than maximal response even at full occupancy. Analogue: a molecule structurally derived from a natural ligand. Mimetic: a molecule reproducing a natural ligand’s effect without structural derivation.
Orthosteric site: the binding site the natural ligand occupies. Allosteric site: a distinct site whose occupancy modulates activity at the orthosteric one. Biased agonism: preferential activation of one downstream pathway over another. Tachyphylaxis: diminishing response to repeated administration. Steady state: the condition in which the rate of drug entering the body equals the rate leaving it.
Precision here is not pedantry. Several of the arguments this publication receives by post turn out, on inspection, to be disagreements about which of these words the writer meant.
Three things, on the Journal’s assessment. First, the demonstration that a dual agonist could produce weight reduction approaching bariatric-surgical magnitude moved the field’s expectations, and with them the design of every subsequent programme. Second, the cardiovascular and renal outcome results reframed the class from metabolic-cosmetic to cardiometabolic, which changed reimbursement arguments far more than it changed prescribing.
Third, and least remarked, the pharmacology of oral administration became tractable. That is a manufacturing and access story as much as a scientific one: an oral small molecule has a completely different cost structure, cold-chain requirement and supply profile from an injectable peptide, and if it holds up in phase 3 it will do more to change who can get treated than any of the receptor science described above.
None of this settles the question a reader most wants settled, which is what a given molecule will do to them. Receptor pharmacology is a description of average behaviour in a population of receptors, and a person is not a population. What it does provide is a way of telling a plausible claim from an implausible one — and in a market where the same four figures circulate for eighteen months attached to the wrong trials, that is not a small thing.
Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.
Your accumulation table gives 2.0 for a seven-day half-life at weekly dosing. I make it 2.0 as well, but I would point out that this assumes complete absorption of each dose, which for subcutaneous peptides is a generous assumption.
— E. Beauchamp, Ottawa, ON
Correct, and the table now carries that caveat. The ratio is unaffected by a constant bioavailability factor, but the absolute concentrations obviously are.
As a community pharmacist I would add one thing to your section on missed doses: the label window matters less than whether the patient then double-doses to "catch up". I have seen that twice this year and both times the patient believed they were following instructions.
— L. Dziedzic, Wrocław
Noted, and worth stating plainly: the pharmacokinetics give no basis whatever for doubling a dose after an omission. We will say so explicitly next time the subject comes up.
A plateau at an intermediate dose and a plateau at the maximum dose look identical from the outside and mean different things.
Supply interruption is the commonest cause of unplanned re-titration in this market, and it is almost never framed that way.
The receptor populations that produce satiety and the ones that produce nausea overlap substantially. That is why the ceiling of this drug class is where it is, and it is…
The mechanism is well described. The variance is not.
What adding GIP activity does, on the current evidence, and what remains unresolved.
The central effects are not a bonus. On the current evidence they are the principal mechanism of weight loss.