What the new New Zealand guidance says about stopping
The evidence base is thin and the document says so, which is to its credit.
TheCompound Journal
Reporting on incretins, compounding & the peptide supply chain
Schedules
Deviation from the printed ladder is not non-compliance. In this class it is the modal behaviour of competent prescribing.
There is a particular kind of error that comes from reading a dose table as an instruction rather than a default. A person who reaches week seventeen, feels unwell, and escalates anyway because the calendar says so is following the document and ignoring the drug. A person who reaches an adequate response at an intermediate dose and escalates anyway because the top of the ladder is the top of the ladder is doing something the trials give no reason to do. Both errors have the same root: mistaking the shape of a protocol for the shape of a treatment.
A titration schedule in a product label is the residue of a protocol decision. Somebody designing a phase 3 trial had to specify how participants would arrive at the target dose, because a trial cannot be run on clinical judgement without becoming uninterpretable. The specification was chosen to be tolerable enough that dropout would not wreck the analysis, and brisk enough that the primary endpoint would arrive within the planned duration. It was then submitted, reviewed, approved and printed.
Nothing in that sequence involves comparing the chosen schedule against a plausible alternative. The regulatory question is whether the product as studied is safe and effective, not whether the escalation pattern used to study it was optimal. Assessment reports for the major incretin products discuss dose selection at length and escalation interval selection barely at all.
This is not a criticism of the regulators, who answered the question they are asked. It is a caution against a specific inference: that because a schedule appears in an approved label, it has been shown to be better than a slower or faster one. It has not. The Journal treats the printed ladder as a well-reasoned default with a pharmacokinetic justification, which is what it is.
For weight management, the approved escalation runs 0.25 mg weekly for four weeks, then 0.5 mg, then 1.0 mg, then 1.7 mg, reaching 2.4 mg at week seventeen. For glycaemic indications the ladder is shorter and the maximum lower: 0.25 mg, then 0.5 mg, then 1.0 mg, with a 2.0 mg option added later on the strength of a dedicated dose-comparison study.
Two features are worth noticing. The starting dose is explicitly sub-therapeutic — 0.25 mg is a tolerability rung, not a treatment dose, and describing it as a low dose rather than an initiation dose causes real confusion. And the ratios narrow as the ladder rises: two doublings, then a 1.7-fold step, then a 1.41-fold step.
The 2.4 mg dose was selected on the basis of the phase 2 dose-ranging programme and carried into the STEP trials, where it produced a mean weight reduction of about fifteen per cent at sixty-eight weeks against roughly two and a half per cent on placebo.1 That is the number the ladder exists to reach, and the ladder itself was never the subject of the trial.
The class has two dose-response curves running in parallel, and only one of them flattens.
On why the ceiling existsTirzepatide begins at 2.5 mg weekly for four weeks, moves to 5 mg, and thereafter increases in 2.5 mg increments at intervals of not less than four weeks, to a maximum of 15 mg. The structural difference from semaglutide is important: after the first doubling the increments are fixed in absolute terms, which means the ratio falls steadily — 1.5-fold, then 1.33, then 1.25, then 1.20.
The practical consequence is that the upper half of the tirzepatide ladder is unusually gentle in proportional terms, and the first step from 2.5 mg to 5 mg is by some distance the most demanding thing the schedule asks. Clinicians we spoke to described the 2.5-to-5 transition as the point at which most early attrition occurs, which is what the ratios predict.
The label also states, in language that repays attention, that 5 mg is a therapeutic dose in its own right and that escalation beyond it should reflect response and tolerability. That is a materially different instruction from a ladder with a fixed destination, and it is closer to how the drug is actually used.2
| Trial | Lead-in | Randomised period | Continued | Withdrawn |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| STEP 4 | 20 weeks to 2.4 mg | 48 weeks | −7.9% further | +6.9% regain |
| SURMOUNT-4 | 36 weeks open-label | 52 weeks | −5.5% further | +14.0% regain |
| Both designs compared the achieved dose against placebo. Neither examined a reduced maintenance dose, which is the comparison most readers ask about. | ||||
The pivotal protocols in this class permitted escalation to be delayed. In the semaglutide obesity programme, participants unable to tolerate a dose increase could remain at the previous dose and attempt escalation later; the tirzepatide programme contained comparable provisions, with defined windows and a limit on how long a participant could remain below target before being counted as not having reached it.
This matters for how the efficacy figures should be read. The mean weight reductions quoted from STEP and SURMOUNT were produced by populations in which a meaningful minority spent time below their assigned target dose. The trials therefore already contain the effect of flexible titration, and the flexible approach is not a departure from the evidence but part of how the evidence was generated.
What the labels carry forward is the ladder. What they largely omit is the permission. A prescriber who reads only the label sees a fixed calendar; a prescriber who reads the trial documentation sees a calendar with a documented escape valve. The Journal has raised this with two regulatory affairs specialists, both of whom regarded it as a known and unglamorous gap in how trial conduct is translated into prescribing information.3
The practice that has emerged across this class, without ever being formally codified, runs roughly as follows. Start at the initiation dose. Escalate when the current dose is comfortable enough that a person is eating normally, keeping fluids down, and not organising their week around symptoms. Do not escalate in the week of a symptom flare. If a rung is intolerable, step back to the previous one and try again later. If a rung is producing an adequate result, consider stopping there.
Every clinician we spoke to described something within a small variation of that, and none of them could point to a trial of it. It is a reasonable synthesis of the pharmacokinetics, the tachyphylaxis data and a great deal of accumulated observation.
The Journal has a specific position on this. The absence of randomised support for tolerability-led escalation is a real gap and should be closed, but its absence is not a reason to prefer the printed calendar, which has no randomised support either. Between two unrandomised schedules, the one that responds to information about the individual is the better bet. We say that as an editorial judgement rather than as a report of evidence.
Two trials in this class were built specifically to answer what happens when treatment stops. In the semaglutide programme, participants who had escalated to the top dose over twenty weeks were then randomised to continue or to switch to placebo; those continuing lost a further eight per cent of body weight over the following forty-eight weeks while those withdrawn regained about seven per cent.4 In the tirzepatide programme, a thirty-six-week open-label lead-in was followed by randomised continuation or withdrawal, with the continuation group losing a further five and a half per cent and the withdrawal group regaining approximately fourteen per cent.5
These are among the most informative results in the field and they are frequently over-read. What they establish is that the effect is maintained by continued exposure and reverses without it. What they do not establish, because neither design examined it, is whether a reduced maintenance dose would hold the result. The comparison was full dose against nothing.
Given that cost is the leading reported reason for stopping, a randomised comparison of full-dose against half-dose maintenance would be one of the highest-value trials nobody has run.
In this market, gaps are usually structural rather than personal. Shortage listings, restrictions on compounded supply, price movements, customs interdiction and vendors ceasing to trade all produce interruptions that arrive without notice and end without warning. We have documented gaps of one to eleven weeks arising purely from supply, in people who missed no dose voluntarily.
The practical consequence is that anyone dependent on a single source is also dependent on that source for the continuity of their titration. Several people described re-escalating three times in a year for reasons that had nothing to do with their tolerance of the drug.
There is a second-order effect worth naming. Resuming with material from a different supplier compounds the uncertainty: the person is re-escalating and simultaneously changing the actual content of the vial. Reports from Janoshik, Medutest, PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate consistently show that nominal strength and measured peptide content are not the same quantity, and a supplier change during a re-titration makes any symptom change uninterpretable. Change one variable at a time is a laboratory principle, and it applies here.
Four weeks is the point at which a dose has finished getting stronger on its own. That is a kinetic fact, not a clinical result.
On the escalation intervalEverything above assumes the dose administered is the dose intended. For licensed pens that assumption is reasonable. For research-grade lyophilised powder it is an assumption that should be examined, because a titration schedule built on an unreliable starting figure propagates the error through every subsequent rung.
Two distinct quantities are involved. Chromatographic purity describes the proportion of peptide-related material that is the intended peptide. Peptide content describes what fraction of the vial mass is peptide at all, the remainder being counter-ions, residual solvent, water and excipient. A vial can be ninety-nine per cent pure and contain substantially less peptide than its label states, and content is the figure that determines a dose.
Of the four independent services this market relies on, all report purity and only some report content routinely. Janoshik, Medutest, PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate have each published results in which nominal and measured strength diverged. The Journal has argued in Analytics that content should be reported as standard, and we repeat it here for a titration-specific reason: without it, the arithmetic of a step is being performed on a number nobody has measured.
Compounded and grey-market preparations are frequently supplied at concentrations that do not correspond to any licensed presentation. That is not in itself a quality problem, but it removes every mental shortcut a person may have acquired, and it interacts badly with escalation.
The recurring error is arithmetic rather than clinical: a person who has learned that a particular volume equals a particular dose changes vial, keeps the volume, and changes the dose without intending to. We have seen this reported in both directions and at magnitudes exceeding a full rung on the ladder.
Two habits protect against it. Recompute the volume-to-dose conversion whenever the vial changes, from the stated content and the reconstitution volume, rather than carrying the old figure forward. And write the result down somewhere attached to the vial, because the calculation is easy and the recall is not. The Journal covers the underlying arithmetic in the injection-practice file; the point here is that changing vials mid-titration converts a titration decision into a units problem, and units problems are where the largest errors in this field occur.
Three conventions govern the numbers in this file. Weight-change figures are quoted with the estimand named, because the treatment-policy and trial-product analyses in the obesity programmes differ by two to three percentage points and secondary coverage habitually mixes them. Doses are quoted as the weekly amount, not as a pen volume or a unit count, because volume and units depend on concentration and concentration varies. And where a figure derives from a responder analysis rather than a primary endpoint, we say so.
Where we describe practice rather than evidence, the text says so explicitly. A substantial part of what is known about titration in this class is craft knowledge held by clinicians, and reporting it is legitimate journalism. Presenting it as trial data is not.
Nothing in this file is medical advice. The Journal does not recommend doses, schedules, products or suppliers. Several compounds discussed here are sold for research use only and are not approved for human use in any jurisdiction. Decisions about treatment belong with a licensed clinician who has examined the person concerned.
Initiation dose: the first rung, chosen for tolerability and generally sub-therapeutic. Not a low treatment dose. Target dose: the dose a protocol or prescriber intends to reach. Maintenance dose: the dose continued once the intended effect is achieved. Maximum approved dose: the highest dose in the label, set by the studied range and the tolerability ceiling.
Escalation interval: the time between increments. Hold: deliberately remaining at a rung beyond the standard interval. Re-titration: re-ascending after exposure has been substantially cleared. Dose-limiting: describing an effect severe enough to prevent escalation, which is a property of the person and the dose jointly, not of the drug alone.
Steady state: the condition in which drug entering the body equals drug leaving it. Accumulation ratio: steady-state average concentration divided by first-dose average concentration. Precision here matters more than it sounds: a large share of the correspondence this desk receives about titration turns out on inspection to be a disagreement about which of these words the writer meant.
A closing note on the specific market this publication covers. Everything above assumes a known dose. For material sold for research use only, the dose is an inference from a label, and the independent testing services keep finding that the inference is sometimes wrong. Titration arithmetic performed on an unmeasured number is not titration; it is estimation with a decimal point.
Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.
You keep insisting on peptide content rather than purity when discussing dose certainty. I have looked at a dozen certificates from four different testing services and content is reported on perhaps a third of them. What are readers supposed to do with an absence?
— O. Brannigan, Galway
Treat the nominal figure as an upper bound and say so out loud when reasoning about a dose. It is an unsatisfying answer and it is the honest one. We have argued in Analytics that content should be a standard reported field, and we will keep naming the services that report it and those that do not.
Your piece treats the four-week step as arithmetic, and I accept the arithmetic, but my prescriber moved me up every two weeks and I reached the top dose without difficulty. I do not think the schedule is as constraining as you suggest.
— G. Papadakis, Thessaloniki
Nor do we, and the file should have been clearer. The four-week interval is a floor below which the previous rung is still accumulating, not a threshold below which escalation is unsafe. Plenty of people tolerate faster ascent. Our objection is to the inverse inference — that because you did, everybody should — and to the absence of a trial that would let anyone say which is which in advance.
Thank you for saying plainly that the maximum dose is not the goal. I stopped at 10 mg fourteen months ago because it was working and I was tired of arguing about it. Every article I read before yours implied I had given up early.
— N. Fairweather, Hamilton
I want to object to the framing of dose reduction as measurement. In practice it is experienced as failure, and telling people it is a thermostat does not change how the appointment feels. The language problem is real and you have solved it rhetorically rather than actually.
— M. Karlsen, Kristiansand
A fair hit. We can describe the pharmacology accurately and still be writing at a distance from how the decision lands, and the paragraph you object to does both. The reframing is offered as a corrective to a stigma, not as a claim that the stigma is imaginary.
Your residual-exposure table gives six per cent after four weeks. I calculate 6.25 per cent, which is a quibble, but the larger point is that it assumes steady state at the moment of interruption. Someone who stops three weeks into a new rung has less on board than your table implies.
— M. Ferrari, Trieste
Correct on both counts, and the table now carries the steady-state assumption explicitly. Your second point is the more useful one: interrupting mid-escalation clears faster than interrupting from a settled dose, and the practical reading of the table should be adjusted accordingly.
The evidence base is thin and the document says so, which is to its credit.
Every withdrawal trial compared full dose against nothing. The clinically interesting comparison — full dose against a reduced one — has not been randomised.
The evidence base is thin and the document says so, which is to its credit.
What the published pharmacokinetics permit, what the labels state, and where the two diverge.
The clinical effect profile is almost fully predictable from where the receptor is expressed, which is unusual and useful.
This is the single interaction with ordinary medical care that patients most need to disclose, and it is the one most often not asked about.